Mem Class Combinations - Collector - Revision history

GrumpyGecko at 05:04, 31 July 2021

2021-07-31T05:04:47Z

GrumpyGecko at 05:08, 29 July 2021

2021-07-29T05:08:53Z

GrumpyGecko: /* Collector/Alchemist */

2021-07-29T01:45:25Z

‎Collector/Alchemist

GrumpyGecko: /* Collector/Alchemist */

2021-07-29T01:18:09Z

‎Collector/Alchemist

GrumpyGecko: /* Collector/Alchemist */

2021-07-29T00:54:32Z

‎Collector/Alchemist

GrumpyGecko at 00:50, 29 July 2021

2021-07-29T00:50:14Z

GrumpyGecko: /* Collector/Blacksmith */

2021-07-22T13:31:12Z

‎Collector/Blacksmith

GrumpyGecko: /* Collector/Blacksmith */

2021-07-22T13:28:29Z

‎Collector/Blacksmith

GrumpyGecko at 11:14, 22 July 2021

2021-07-22T11:14:31Z

GrumpyGecko at 11:11, 22 July 2021

2021-07-22T11:11:59Z

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		+	=Acknowledgement of users who helped writing this article=
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		+	Thank you for all your ideas, feedback, opinions, or helping to fix mistakes. Special thanks to @lynnsane @pd0000312 @baikal18 @GeniusStupid

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 Additionally, there will be a short discussion about advantages and disadvantages of the combinations.
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 * Even though all these tool-skills are skilled, there are enough SP to skill one Armor Mastery (Robe Armor Mastery) and one Weapon Mastery (Blunt Mastery). Going full Collector and going fulll Blacksmith at the same time is possible, while still maintaining points for stats.
 * This /class example completely skips "Picky Eater" and "Mighty Golem" skill. The creator of this points distiribution tells, that there were found other ways to deal with excess resources: distributing to all guild members to use the gnomes daily and in addition for the sentinels to feed the trader and secondly: permanently working on refining resources. Never letting it stack up to over thousands. I'm sure this requires a lot of time investment not only by the Collector/BS of this example, but by multiple people who all found a strategy together how to use it all.
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 : Educated Technician /skill_et
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 # A possibility is basically being full Alchemist, but add "Gifted Pathfinder" from the Collector side to level up faster. Possibly add "Blunt Mastery" if you want to use blunts due to getting stat bonus for that.
 # Or you pick the Collector side and you add just a few Alchemist skills (Blacksmith's Wonders for craft bonus, maybe Long Life if you need a bigger stamina pool, or just "Alchemy" and "Combat Potions Mastery" and you buy the simple herbs to brew your combat potions for higher stats).
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+Due to Harvest skill overwriting Collection skill, if skilled, means that you have to decide what you want: the Collector side or the Alchemist side.
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-* GEAR
+* If you go for option 1, being almost only Alchemist, you should equip your Alchemist standard gear (Robe Armor). If you have enough SP and you can also skill "Blunt Mastery", you can use a blunt weapon
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-* Advantages
+* Equipping [https://chatwars-wiki.de/index.php?title=Combat_Potion Combat Potions] is very cheap and gives a considerable stat bonus
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-* Disadvantages
+* The two main skills of the two classes cancel/overwrite each other. Using [https://chatwars-wiki.de/index.php?title=Harvest Harvest] from the Alchemist side will make [https://chatwars-wiki.de/index.php?title=Collection Collection] completely useless. You won't find normal resources and decent amount of parts/recipes if you have both skills. You will only find herbs instead.
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 * Collector and Blacksmith naturally share a lot of skills. There is not really much coming in addition. The bonus XP from daily crafting are not added to the bonus XP from Crafting for a BS, since it is the same skill, just at different levels. The bonus XP from "Educated Technician" - L2 - (Collector feature), are completely overwritten and replaced by the higher level skill "Educated Technician" --L10--. The collector's XP bonus is not calculated somewhere extra and and added to the bonus XP a normal BS would get. You just get the Blacksmith's amount of bonus XP from crafting and that's it - which is higher than the pure Collector ET-bonus, to be fair.
-* For real Blacksmith-work, it's crucial to have robe armor, due to the much bigger mana pool. But a collector who wants to have top stats as Collector can't allow himself to get the lower stats robe armor. It gets very difficult to get competitive attack ord defense stats..
+* For real Blacksmith-work, it's crucial to have robe armor, due to the much bigger mana pool. But a collector who wants to have top stats as Collector can't allow himself to get the lower stats robe armor. It gets very difficult to get competitive attack ord defense stats..It has to be clear that this won't be a class-combination for great stats. On the other hand: Being main class collector is never the best choice for stats, since the base values of the collector-class are very equally balanced (55%Atk, 45% Def)
 * It can be overwhelming to be responsible to find and collect the loot and being completely involved in the craft preparations in addtion. This has the potential to lead to Burn-Out.
 * Blacksmith class does not provide any relevant tool to level up faster. Overall this combination will be rather slow, compared to other classes in combination with Collector.

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-=Introduction=
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 This page is meant to discuss every single mem-class combination, that is possible for the main (/mem) class "Collector" with all five other possible /mes-class options. There will be two grades for each combination:
-* A synergy grade: from 1 to 5. 5 will be a perfect addition to the class, 1 will be a very bad contribution and synergy of the skills
+* A potential effectiveness/synergy grade: from 1 to 5. 5 will be a perfect addition to the class, 1 will be a very bad contribution and synergy of the skills
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-* A difficulty grade: from 1 to 5. 5 will be the hardest combination, requiring a lot of attention and time investment, 1 will be the easiest to play
+* A difficulty grade: from 1 to 5. 5 will be the hardest combination, requiring a lot of attention and time investment, 1 will be the easiest to play.
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-Additionally, there will be a short discussion about advantages and disadvantages of the combination
+Additionally, there will be a short discussion about advantages and disadvantages of the combinations.

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-===Example skill tree===
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 : Robe Armor Mastery /skill_rm
 : Blunt Mastery /skill_blm
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 * This /class example completely skips "Picky Eater" and "Mighty Golem" skill. The creator of this points distiribution tells, that there were found other ways to deal with excess resources: distributing to all guild members to use the gnomes daily and in addition for the sentinels to feed the trader and secondly: permanently working on refining resources. Never letting it stack up to over thousands. I'm sure this requires a lot of time investment not only by the Collector/BS of this example, but by multiple people who all found a strategy together how to use it all.
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-==Collector/Ranger==
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 <i>Preamble: this is potentially be nerfed in future!</i>
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-===Example skill tree===
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 This is my own L55-/class output. On higher levels: always focus Power Napping and Gifted Pathfinder (new levels always unlock at L54,L64,L74, so be prepared!). Also very important is investing the single SP-cost for higher levels of Perception at L60 and L70 (maximum Perception 6). Skill up Picky Eater as high as you can, because it improves your loot significantly. Trapping is enough at L3. Skip out on "Collector's Sense", since that doesn't bring much valuable loot overall. I also invested a few points in Labeling and Broker, just as Quality-of-Life features for myself and also to save more resources from /g_stock.
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-==Collector/Sentinel==
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